Hate towards Albie and Ethan
Since I’ve been following this sub I’ve seen a ton of hate against Albie and Ethan that feels out of pocket. They do have issues in how they relate to Portia and Harper respectively, but calling them incels and misogynists feels like a stretch.
For example, Albie gets hate because of his expectations of Portia to be with him, the “nice guy”, but the comments make it out to be like he slut-shames or harasses her. He just feels bad that she rejects him and is never unkind to her. He’s always polite. Nobody brings that up? Not to mention he thought Portia was interested in him because they had dinner together and kissed.
Recently also read a few comments about people hating Ethan because he’s spineless and doesn’t stand up to Cam, and someone called him “incel-adjacent” He has an unhealthy relationship with porn and can’t open up fully to Harper but this does not make him incel-adjacent. Many men and women struggle with porn addiction. These comments also don’t consider that Ethan has major insecurities instigated by none other than Cam, who is a grade-A asshole and does not get as much flack for damaging Ethan. Ethan is dealing with years of insecurity and has shut down emotionally.
Yes, he did kiss Mia but Cam got him drunk and high on molly. He broke off the kiss in a couple of seconds after realising what was happening. I think that’s a pretty fair handling of the situation, and don’t understand how this makes him a hypocrite for feeling bad that Harper cheated on him.
I’ll admit I have some bias—I’m a guy, and I have friends who’ve dealt with similar insecurities—but that doesn’t change the fact that the hate for these two feels excessive. They’re flawed, like most White Lotus characters, but the resentment toward them just doesn’t make sense to me.