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dpaulm

2024-08-15 20:04:58

60 year old Scott Schwarz missing from Butler County, Ohio

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2024-04-12 16:50:43

Former YWAM Louisville Staff?

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Hi all - made this account so I could comment. This is Scott's daughter Kate. We have absolutely no clues left to go on..detectives have done a lot to try to solve this but are coming up short. Please please keep sharing and maybe someone will come forward. We are heartbroken and don't know what to do. Thank you for the support.

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Kate, I am so very sorry your family is going through this. I cannot imagine the helplessness and sadness you all feel. I often check to see if there is an update and think of your Dad when I am out and about in the area and look at the faces of silver haired men, just in case. I keep hoping you have been given some bit of information that can't be shared publicly, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I am praying that very soon he will be found and you will have answers.

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There was a pretty big exodus there in the 2015-2020 era due to the toxicity and general abuse and manipulation from Andy and Carm and the leadership there, so they have been out for while. I’m sure they would be willing to help because they are very familiar with things.

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I heard about that. Carm and Andy are still at it. Our son told us about a ridiculous trade Carm went on with the kitchen staff. We talked to Derek about our son with regards to him getting moved out of the kitchen and on to a different team. We really didn't get anywhere with him and now realize it might have made things worse. Our son is in the kitchen again this quarter. Just trying to figure out why he isn't getting moved around and why nobody is coming along side of him to help him out.

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I can’t fully speak for that base but in Orlando (where Louisville really modeled themselves after) the grunt work is seen as discipleship. So it’s do a bunch of crappy work and if you complain it’s seen as a character flaw that needs discipleship, and that lands you in more crappy grunt work.

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Thanks for that. One of the things that concerns us is that he doesn't advocate for himself. I guess you just explained why. As parents we are trying to figure out how to get him out. He is 21 and an adult so we can't tell him what to do. How far can we go before to get him out without turning him against us. We bought him a car because he has no money. So now he has to pay us every month for the car and insurance. Next we are going to tell him it is time for him to pay for his own phone. We figure we might be able to force him out financially. He has lost a lot of his donors and he isn't good at fundraising, so this might work. Our pastor personally offered him a job at our church. We figured if it came from someone outside of the family he would be more receptive and he wasn't. Thanks for your words of wisdom and warning. I just wonder if he will ever be able to recognize how toxic it is there.

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